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Wilfred A. Cassell, M.D., FAPS, APC, (Email: siswilfredacassell@yahoo.com) and Bankey L. Dubey, Ph.D., D.M.S.P. (Email: bldubey@gmail.com), SIS Center, Anchorage (USA). Key Words: Denial of Death, SIS in ream Symbolism, Dream Interpretation |
M: I know. We had, I don't know what it was, we – my dad had got -- we had a beautiful home. It was great a big house.
Dr. C: Where was that now? M: We had five bathrooms upstairs, and -- not – five bedrooms, you know -- Dr. C: And what city was that in?
M: In Winnipeg.
Dr. C: Nice town.
M: Yeah.
Dr. C: And you survived some cold winters.
M: Oh yes. It was so cold in the winter, but you know, we got so used to it. I would be way up north, with the -- with my work, you know, and --
Dr. C: Tell us about your work. M: Pardon?
Dr. C: Tell us about your work. M: Well, I was a Public Health Nurse, so – you think -- you know.
Dr. C: Yes. I remember when we talked in the hallway the other day, you -- you told me the story right away that was interesting about the pregnant lady. M: We had lots of stories!
Dr. C: Can you tell us that one about the man, brought his wife in, and they overcame you. Do you remember that, what was-- M: There's lots of those. And I -- and it was cold and had been a horrible night, and this was like, 2:00 o'clock in the morning. And I had put a blanket on the floor and I was lying on it. And anyway, then I heard this car, it was a buggy of some sort. He came in, so I went to see, and I asked him what he wanted. So he told me, he said "My wife is having a baby." And I said "No, she can't have a baby here. There is snow, and rain." And he said, "Well, I'm going now, because I don't want to lose my ride." So he left her. And I had never seen her before, I didn't know what stage she was on.
Dr. C: How did you feel at that point?
M: I felt like killing myself!!
Dr. C: Oh, well, yeah.
M: Oh my God, I knew that I couldn't do that. So I had a look at her, she had grey hair, and it was hanging like this, and she was like this,
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and she was like that. And I said "How far are you? When are you expecting your baby?" She said "This afternoon." Dr. C: You didn't -- you did well not to faint on the floor.
M: I thought, well, there is nobody I could call. There's no one because I'm all by myself on the Indian reservation. And so I said, well, that's not a big deal, she'd pop out the baby and, you know. So anyway, she said -- I said, "Well, how many and when do you expect?" She said "Right now!" Dr. C: Oh, come on.
M: So I got ready to -- I got some towels and stuff that I kept by, you know, and so I told her to lie down. And I had put some stuff for her to lie down. And so she could hardly lie down because she was so big, you know. So I say, "Well, don't push. Don't push right now. Wait until I get there." She said "But I can't help it." And so, one whoosh, and there was a baby (laughing).
Dr. C: Oh my. It's good you have a sense of humor. Okay. Well, I want to show you some things here, Okay?
M: Yes, you bet.
Dr. C: You'll find this pretty interesting, I think. There you go.
M: Okay.
Dr. C: Now, this is a series of electronic pictures which I made over the last 20 years, years. And this technique is used to help us understand people that have various problems, and is a way of helping them.
M: Okay.
Dr. C: You know, called a somatic image series.
M: Okay.
Dr. C: We shorten it, to somatic SIS.
M: Well, I -- what's that?
Dr. C: Do you want me to read that? "This viewing procedure is to be administered under the direct supervision of a trained professional, who had explained its risk, benefits, clinical relevance, and so on. If at any time questions or difficulties would arise during this proceeding, please feel free to call the person administering." Then we had
some pictures to relax people. Aren't they nice?
M: Oh, that's gorgeous.
Dr. C: Just focus on those pictures for a while. You know, I love Butchart Gardens.
That's where I go in Victoria to get relaxed.
M: I go there very seldom, but I do go. Dr. C: Well, when I go next time, if you want to go, I'll -- I'll take you.
M: I'd love it. These are beautiful.
Dr. C: Aren't they?
M: What a variety. Gorgeous colours.
Dr. C: And the music too. The soundtrack, right now, isn't as loud as it should be, but the soundtrack is pleasant too.
M: Beautiful pictures.
Dr. C: I'm going to show you how to respond to some test images shortly. I'm sure you could have used these flowers to relax that night when it was so stressful with the woman in labour having a baby! M: That's right. Yes. They're beautiful. And they are relaxing [indiscernible].
Dr. C: This is -- Someone is going to tell you how to respond to the DVD (SIS-II). Can you hear it? ”. MALE RECORDING “It is not a picture. It's an image, and everyone sees images differently. A few weeks ago, a friend and I spent a few moments reacting to images, and to what she saw in the image you're seeing now”. FEMALE RECORDING:
“It's like a butterfly, but it's a butterfly upside down. But this long image takes on a human shape too. A very narrow man with long legs. And his head comes down as well, like a butterfly. And it looks like a mushroom cloud of an atomic bomb” MALE RECORDING: “It's a fun and interesting way to pass a few moments.
Dr. C: That's a picture of the Alaska mountains, by the way. Aren't they lovely? Then, like them, tell me what you see. Everyone sees something different. And then tell me. Tell me what you see. Ordinarily we have -- sometimes they write them down, but I want you -- sort of, we're making a training tape for young people.
M: I see.
Dr. C:-- so when you see this, tell us what you see there, and any feelings. This is the first image. What does it remind you of? M: Trying to think. The colours are coming through so pretty. I see a little dog. Dr. C: Okay. Now we're going to see the third one.
M: Not really.
Dr. C: After each picture we'll have a flower. What about number 4? Does that look like anything?
M: A flower. Now, what's -- a streak in the middle?
Dr. C: That's what I asked you to see. Does it bring anything to mind? You saw -- M: It seems like an animal, it's sticking -- it's just sticking out, and looking worryingly. Dr. C: And now we have the fifth one. What do you see there?
M: Well, it looks like a pink heart 5A.
Dr. C: Right. And how about the sixth one?
M: And let me see. “There's a little dog.” And it's somebody showing off, putting their feet -- both their legs out, like this. And that little dog, it's so sweet right there.
Dr. C: And then we've got number 7.
M: Okay. Where is number 7? It's someone putting on a show of some sort, to show off something. "See what -- see me, or look at me", or something like that. To me, that's someone to get your attention. Dr. C: And who is that someone, a man or woman or..?
M: I think it's a lady, in a way.
Dr. C: How about this one? This is A 8.
M: I don't know. I -- well, he seems to wonder, he's wondering whether to pee or not.
Dr. C: How about this one, 9A?
M: And that's two -- well, they're not people, but they're two -- they're trying to put on a dance of some sort. There's two of them and they're not sure what they're doing.
Dr. C: Does it remind you of anything at all?
M: Uhh ..
Dr. C: Okay. Here comes 10A.
M: I can't figure out what that is.
Dr. C: 11.
M: I want to see -- oh, she is trying to tell you something. And going up in the air like this, trying to tell you something.
Dr. C: What would that be?
M: I think it has something to do with a -- he's caught in the back somewhere, and yet he's different. These are little birds in the flowers,
and -- Dr. C: 12A.
M: Now, that one. Hmm, I think they're trying to prepare to speak in a -- in a thing. And not sure what to say.
Dr. C: 13A, yeah.
M: -- Hmm. It's someone– something surrounded, quite surrounded.
Dr. C: Okay. 14A.
M: Yeah, image 14 is -- It's reaching –for the sky or something. But he's not alone. Dr. C: Okay.And 15A? How about that one?
M: Well, I don't think -- I don't think that's an animal, but it could be a long -- a longbeaked bird of some sort. But he's being, held up either by a tree or -- but he's ...
Dr. C: 16A.
M: Okay. Oh, 16. Let me see now. That's a hard one. it's either a woman or a man. There is something in there and they're trying to put on a jacket, and it's sort of stuck in here somewhere. Dr. C: 17A.
M: Now, those are ribs.
Dr. C: A18.
M: What is this? I'll sit back, maybe. So much -- I made -- I made a dress and the top of it was just like that.
Dr. C: Okay. 19A.
M: Now, I got to figure out who he is first of all --what it is. Hmm.
Dr. C: Any idea? Okay. We'll go on to another one. This is 20A.
M: Now, this one, if I was at church, I think that this part here would be part of the front of the --and these things are -- they go around.
Dr.C: Okay. Part of the church structure?
M: Yeah.
Dr. C: All right. Now we've got A21.
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M: Now, this, this is just an image, and they're just putting a law out, you know, you gonna have -- this is what you have to do. And – then someone I don't think is very
happy about it. So they're --
Dr. C: What way do you think they're unhappy?
M: Oh, put it back on again, or can you do that?
Dr. C: Maybe later.
M: Okay.
Dr. C: 22A.
M: Hmm. This is very -- Hmm. I have a -- at the cottage I have a big bowl, and in the centre of it, it's a -- something as part of the bowl, and it looked a little bit like that.
Dr. C: 23A.
M: Yeah. That, that also looks like a little child, and they're wanting help, and they've climbed up to this as far as he could go and he's calling, and he's waving his arms.
Dr. C: 24A.
M: Okay. It's an animal of some kind. Let me see. Or maybe it isn't.
Dr. C: Okay. That's 25A.
M: Oh, that looks like it could be fur around her.Well, it -- like, I made an outfit that looks a lot like that.
Dr. C: Okay.
M: And it was a two-piece. The outside is like that.
Dr. C: This is 26A.
M: Hmm. You know, it's someone asking for help. They've got their arms out like this. Dr. C: 27A.
M: Now, what in the world is that? Well, it looks like a big fire cracker that they took off, and it's gone.
Dr. C: Okay. Any feelings when you look at that fire cracker?
M: Well, you know, the other day they were doing fire crackers at my cottage. (July the
1st or Canada Day)
Dr. C: Oh, yeah, On Canada Day, right?
M: Yeah.
Dr. C: 28A.
M: This image is hard to say anything about this one, somehow.
Dr. C: All right. 29A.
M: Okay. I can't hardly see that one. Oh, it's coming. No, it's got my image in it, I'll put my head out here.
Dr. C: Okay. 30A.
M: I don't think I was very helpful. That looks like a tea pot, and that's the handle, and that's the pot.
Dr. C: Okay. A31.
M: And that's a bird. And I don't know -- I know that he's over there with his head, and he might be taking off, but there's something behind that shouldn't be there. But right there. Oh, and there's a lady here. She is watching this, or a man, but there is the two eyes and a mouth, and he's looking back, saying "What's going on" or something.
There is action there anyway, of some kind.
Dr. C: Any feelings looking at that one?
M: It feels warm.
Dr. C: This is 1B, oh, we went by it. Okay.
Do you -- M: Beautiful.
Dr. C: This is 2B.
M: That looks like somebody who lost their head, and they're just walking about trying to find out how to -- but his head is gone.
Dr. C: Okay. Any emotions looking at that?
M: I think there is anxiety, very much so.
Dr. C: A little scary.
M: Very, very sure. Yeah, you've been beheaded.
Dr. C: Okay. (At the period in history when she worked as a Public Health Nurse, she was working in essentially more of a male world. The reference to “beheaded” in Freudian terms symbolically reflected her body image lacking a penis and her unconscious feeling of symbolic social
castration.)
Dr. C: Now we've gone to 3B, sorry. M: No, I can't visualize that one. It looks like dark fur. And ...
Dr. C: 4B.
M: Oh, that the -- Oh, and that could be -- yeah. It's an animal of some kind, with her child. It seems like it's -- it's -- maybe it's not an animal, but it's a vision of some sort, where it's a baby, or a child, and an older person on the back. Like, the baby is small. Dr. C: 5B.
M: I think that's just a man and a woman, and they are trying to decide something. And the three objects above are concerned about what -- something in there, and she is on the left, and he is on the right. He's sitting in his chair.
Dr. C: This is 6B.
M: Hmm. Like, to me, he looks like an
animal, but just a -- or else it could be -- it's a shell of some sort, but it's quite large.
That's part of a tree, I think, or it's a flower.
Dr. C: And this one, 8B?
M: I can't -- I know there is two sections to it, and the right is sort of a browny, and the other is a deep blue, on the left.
Dr. C: 9B.
M: Yeah. It looks like my embroidery work.
That's what it looks like.
Dr. C:10B.
M: But it's -- my goodness. I love that blue.
Dr. C: This is 11B now.
M: I don't know what that -- it looks like a hat, or a cap of some sort.
Dr. C: 12B.
M: My goodness. Well, it's spread out, but I can't make out what it's trying to do.
Almost like a person.
Dr. C: Now. 13B.
M: Oh, I've got something like that, it's a collar that comes like this.
Dr. C: 14B.
M: Oh my goodness. Oh, it's a bowl, but there is something in it. It looks like somebody has poured something into this jug.
Dr. C: Okay. Here's 16B. M: That must be held up -- holding up to something. Although it seems like two people discussing something, at the very top.
Dr. C: B17.
M: It's a heart.
Dr. C: Okay. Now we got 18B. M: That's -- My goodness , it's a hard one to put a name to it.
Dr. C: 19B.
M: This is some sort of a bug.
Dr. C: Okay. Anything else there?
M: And there is a heart, and it must have something to do -- it must be some sort of an animal, or a fly, or a bug.
Dr. C: 20B.
M: It is a wedding ring. It was lying in a mess of something and was found. It is unfinished.
Dr.C: 21B
M: Something started. It didn’t finish. They just pitched it.
Dr.C: 22B
M: I see a little boy who fell. He is blowing bubbles. (Here it is significant that instead of seeing a dying person’s body with the spirit leaving, she substituted an image of a little boy and bubbles leaving. This is an important example of the mental mechanism of repression in her mentally receiving visual input denoting death and dying.) Dr.C: 23B.
M: Someone was blurry. He was not in school or anything. He just seems to be there. It is windy. An area has opened up at top. The area is really disturbed like someone came along and gave it a kick. The circle has disappeared. (Although she was trained in anatomy and worked as a nurse, instead of correctly recognizing the somatic content in 23B, she projected symbolic material of a defensive nature. The emotional charge of the imagery is “really disturbed.” In my opinion, the disturbance reflects a response to the previous SIS ink blot where she failed to recognize the content but it produced age regression and emotional
turmoil.)
Dr.C: 25B.
M: A puff of wind. It is rolling stuff on the highway in dust.
Dr.C: 26B.
M: It is very cloudy. Something is falling and trying to get out. It doesn’t make sense. (Here again, the emotional content of falling, trying to get out, captures a continuation of some of the anxiety triggered by 22B.)
Dr.C: 27B.
M: A child who is angry trying to make sense to the person next with his hands. (Note the continuation of the disturbed affect, in this
case, anger.)
Dr.C: 28B
M: Someone who is angry. He is all covered with hair. You can see his face. He has a lot of hair. He looks with his mouth open that he doesn’t like what he is doing. (Again the anger and turmoil surfaced on this.) Dr.C: 29B.
M: He is frustrated or angry, and he is walking really fast like he is determined. He looks pleasant but determined. It’s like a person walking away to escape from someone. (The theme of being angry and escaping reflects the change in mood which began with visualizing 22B.) Dr.C: 31B.
M: They are confiding. Her hand is touching his. They are definitely together, two people, two adults, angry about something. Two adults are trying to hold on to the back of their legs. Two kids trying to reach out for their father’s leg.Two parents loving and kissing and two children trying to get affection.
Dr. C: It's too busy, or too much stuff in it? M: But there's light, there's a light that's there. It's -- it's very, very visible. And it's, it's telling you something. And the hearts, have something to do with it, too.
Dr. C: I'll have to just see what it says.
M: I think I've got it. Windows? Dr. C: It's a problem with the computer. I'm just going to see if I can correct it.
M: Window media. See if you can see. Dr. C: We had a little problem with the computer.
M: Well, look at the time. My son was supposed to meet me.
Dr. C: We're almost done here. So I guess we'll have to be done. What time is your son coming?
M: It was supposed to be at 3:30. What time is it?
Dr. C: Well, it's got to be after 2:30, I think. I guess we won't be able to see them all if -- that's too bad.
M: I wanted to see it.
Dr. C: I don't quite know that ... M: Don't think we can -- he's used to me being late, so I can be a few minutes late. I'm going to rest my neck here while you find it.
Dr. C: That's fine. That's fine. Well, did any of those remind you of anything in the real world that we haven't talked about?
M: Yeah.
Dr. C: What were some of the things that they reminded you of?
M: Well, you know, the wilderness, where I have spent a lot of time in northern Manitoba, and this-- some in there reminded me of things I-- that I went through, and it reminded me of the anxiety that I had trying to find how to solve this.
Dr. C: The anxiety that you had in northern Manitoba, what was that like -- what brought on the anxiety?
M: Pardon?
Dr. C: What was the anxiety, like, that you had in northern --
M: Oh, well, you know, there was a reason for the anxiety, because there was no one around, and I had a responsibility. The woman was in labour, the baby's head was showing, and I thought, well, what am I going to do? You know, like, the anxiety through that about the baby being born alive, and my part in -- and there is no other people around for miles, you know. Dr. C: That's the burden of responsibility.
M: Oh, yeah.
Dr. C: You had to deal with life and death issues.
M: Yeah, lots, lots of it. Yeah. But I got -- I don't know. I wasn't worried, and I -- well, this one night, it was so cold and miserable. It was -- the wind outside was unreal. So there was – I was lying down on the rug and I had my house coat on, and I was all alone, and this is in the wilderness up north. And so this woman in front of him, and she's, like, her head down so I couldn't see her. And I said, "What's the matter with your wife?" He said "That's not my wife." And I said "Well, tell me, what's the matter with her." "She is going o have a baby." And so I knew then the baby was coming out. So anyway, I had to stop talking and do something. So I delivered the baby, and I told him, "You're not going out. You're going to stay here." But he said "My" -- I think it was a horse or something he had waiting with him. I know he didn't have a car. But he did have a horse and buggy, so maybe that was it. Anyway, I said "You have to stay here with me and -- " not that it would have helped, because there is no way he'd have got to a doctor or anything. I just knew I had to deliver the baby. And so anyway, that was one of the nights that was -- I was very worried about, you know, and concerned. And -- but everything turned out all right. The baby was named after me, and that was it.
Dr. C: Well, congratulations on that. Did you have any dreams about things?
M: No. It never bothered me. Once I was at work, got to my room, I was able to shut the door.
Dr. C: And leave it all behind you. M: It saved my life, really. By being -- not worrying, you know, after. But I still do it.
Dr. C: How do you mean you still do it?
M: Well, I worry sometimes about things.
Dr. C: Like what?
M: Oh, let me see. One of those would be what? Oh, yeah, this couple were coming with two children to visit us here, and so we waited and we waited and nothing happened and so they did -- we waited and we waited, and nothing happened. And my husband said "Let's go and see. We know what road
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they're going to be on, so let's go and see." So we drove, I guess, about 50 kilometres, it was quite a distance. And they were stalled. And you know, they were in very bad shape because there's nowhere else -- no one else would be coming by that time of the night. So that was one time that I worried about -- anyway.
Dr. C: I bet. Did you have much experience with dying people and death? M: Yeah. You know, I stayed a lot of times with a person who was dying.
Dr. C: What was that like?
M: Well, I'm going to talk about this lady that I was with, and she said "You know, it's so hard to die." And so I said, "Yes, it is." And we were talking. I knew she was dying, but she wasn't in pain. So we were able to talk.
Dr. C: What was she dying of? M: Well, it -- her heart. Yeah. And the
doctor had said --
Dr. C: And how old was she?
M: She was in her -- I think she was 54. Dr. C: And what was her attitude towards dying?
M: Well, we talked about it. I was a Catholic, and she was a Catholic. So I said, "Do you want to talk about religion? Do you want to talk about God?" She said, "Oh, I would just love it if you would." So we talked about that, I talked. And told her about the after -- and, I mean it's hard to –
Dr. C: What did you say about the afterlife to her?
M: Oh, well, I said, "You know, I don't know what you are -- what you think about, you know, after you die." And she says "Well, I know that God is waiting for me, and I know that he'll be there." And so I went along with her, and so --
Dr. C: How did she react when you told her that?
M: She relaxed so well. And I held her hand. She fell sound asleep. That was the end of it. And she died about two hours later.
Dr. C: So she died peacefully?
M: Yeah.
Dr. C: Well, good for you. Do you think about your own death at age 100? Do you think about that ever?
M: Pardon?
Dr. C: Do you think about your own dying? (Notice the question had to be repeated. This is the third time I asked the question, reflecting the fact that this is a source of anxiety for her that she’s repressing.) M: I never think of that, but I'm with dying -- I was with dying people almost all the time. Because I was nursing in hospitals where, you know, it was for seniors. And so I was with people before they died, and we were able to talk about anything and everything.
Dr. C: This would be a lot of Native people? M: Yes.
Dr. C: And how do the Native people accept death? Do you -- compared -- M: They're wonderful. They're way better than we are.
Dr. C: Tell us about that.
M: Well, they accept death, and they know that it's -- that they're going to go to a better place with no more pain. And you know, that type of thing.
Dr. C: Is that part of the Natives' culture?
M: Oh, yes.
Dr. C: What does the Native culture -- the Indian culture say about that?
M: Well, they know that there's a hereafter. They feel. And they feel that their life – they don't want to steal, or kill anybody, and they know that they want to be good to people and lead a good life, you know.
Dr. C: M'mm-hmm.
M: And the hereafter -- there is a lot of the Indian people that I've looked after, a lot of them were different religions, you know.
They were really, really nice people.
Dr. C: How do they accept physical pain?
M: Not as good as we do.
Dr. C: Tell us about that.
M: They sort of -- if they have pain, like, it's - it's a, like, yeah. They don't accept it as well2 as we do, I don't think, the pain. But I never have pain, so I couldn't tell.
Dr. C: What do they say about pain when they have it?
M: Oh, I just talked them out of it. I don't really like talking about that. "What are we 7 talking about pain for", I would say to them, you know. "Why are we talking about pain? Do you want pain?" "Well, I would like to know that I'm not going to die and have pain." And so I'd have lots of fun with them too, you know. They had a sense of humour, like we do. And -- hey, one of my earrings is missing. Oh my gosh. Dr. C: Well, we'll have to help you find that
at the --
M: It's only a small thing.
Dr. C: What about-- do you remember any dreams you had during that period when you were all stressed out?
M: I wasn't stressed out.
Dr. C: -- with all that responsibility, and dealing with death and dying?
M: No. No. I just took it. I'm going to do as much as I can -- as much as I can do, you know. And I knew that I -- that there is no way that I was going to have a miracle of some kind. So I did my best, you know. And so -- and afterwards, you know, I'd meet them in a store, maybe in Eaton's or somewhere, and they would -- if they saw me in somewhere, they'd come and have a visit with me, and their English wasn't great, but I could understand pretty well everything. But they were good. They were very good. But I'm not very good, because I got to go back home.
Dr. C: Okay. We'll just say one more question. Now did you ever make mistakes that you regretted?
M: Oh, yes, very much so.
Dr. C: Like what?
M: Like I should have done something more. Like it's mostly in the field of nursing and working with older people, and well, trying to make them feel comfortable when there is no hope, you know. And you don't want to lie about it, but you have to have a way of plaining, you know, that you've got pain, and your pain is going to go away when you die. And I hope hat you won't have any pain, but I guess if they talk -- Dr. C: And that's physical pain?
M: -- If a person can talk to you, you know, about this, I don't feel good if they're holding it all inside, and they're lying there and counting the days and -- I say "Talk about your life", and "What did you do", and then they'd talk about their family, and you know, I found it helped.
Dr. C: M'mm-hmm.
M: It helped me too, you know. Dr. C: Yes. Yes. Well, that's very comforting to know, and the -- were there -- you say you never had many dreams about your work then?
M: No. Never. Never.
Dr. C: M'mm-hmm. (It is hard to imagine that with all the stressful events that she had at work that she never experienced posttraumatic stress imagery in her creams.) M: And I was -- the 13th -- I had 13 brothers and sisters.
Dr. C: Where did you fit in the family?
M: I was in the middle. And I was the spoiled one. My brothers used to say "You're spoiled rotten." So I had -- I had six – Dr. C: What influence did a large family have on you growing up?
M: Well, my mom and dad where from Quebec.
Dr. C: Uh-huh.
M: And somehow they moved to Winnipeg, or St. Boniface. Dr. C: What year?
M: Well, it must be over 50 years ago, something like that.
Dr. C: M'mm-hmm.
M: So anyway, yeah. It would be over, maybe 55 or 60 years ago, maybe longer. Anyway, we had a really good life. I had ten brothers and sisters. And my dad had a wonderful job, and only came home weekends, and we all grab him and love him and everything.
Dr. C: What did he work at?
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anyway, he was glad. He was happy. He Final comment: spent the weekend. And like, there were 13 Like this aged public health nurse, SIS of us, you know, and we'd all take off so clinicians in the various mental health mom and dad would have time with them disciplines have occupational exposure to on Sunday, and so we managed somehow, much “Secondary Empathetic you know, there was older -- Traumatization”. The power of the SIS |
M: He worked for a company that -- manufacture company. I forget what it was now. But he only came home weekends, and we just ate him up when he arrived. I know I would just go and grab him. But younger -- older sisters and older brothers. And they -- I would like my life over again exactly the same.
Dr. C: It's wonderful to be able to say that.
M: Yeah.
Dr. C: What would you advise for young people today in terms of how to live their life?
M: Oh, well, I -- I go -- I do -- I do work with young people, you know, in spite of my job. I tell them about what it's like, you know, once --"You're in school right now, and doing all this and all that, but once you think about what you're going to do", then we talk about it, you know. And so I think sometimes it helps, you know. But right now I've got to go, darling.
Dr. C: Well, thank you very much. M: Oh, I enjoyed this. I enjoy being with you.
Dr. C: Well, thank you. I enjoyed it too.
M: So maybe we can do it again someday. (Here she expressed interest and enthusiasm and a desire to speak more
about her interesting life.)
technology to bring dysphoric affect charged stressful imagery into clinical diagnostic/psychotherapeutic interviews is well documented. Please always keep in mind the risk/benefits of these powerful projective techniques!
References:
Cassell, W.A. (2011a) Editorial: Dissolving Death
Anxiety with Yoga Empowered. SIS Journal of Projective Psychology & Mental Health, 18: 123128.
Cassell, W.A. (2014) Editorial: A Spiritual “Afterlife” Death Dream, SIS Journal of Projective Psychology & Mental Health, 21:1 1-2.
Cassell, W.A. and Dubey, B.L. (2012a) Spiritual Warfare and SIS Spiritual Symbols, SIS Journal of Projective Psychology & Mental Health, 19:2, 80-90.
Cassell, W. A. Dubey, B. L. and Roth, G. J. (1997) Medical, Psychological and Spiritual Application of the SIS Inkblots. SIS Journal of Projective Psychology & Mental Health, 4, 89-112.
Cassell, W.A., Dubey, B.L., Charles, T. and Dwivedi, P. (2013) Perceiving One’s Own Dead Body and Death Anxiety Dissolving SIS Spiritual Symbols, SIS Journal of Projective Psychology
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